Haditha Marines Fired Blindly

[Sanders Kaufman]

You know about the US Marines' massacre of a couple of dozen civillians in
Haditha.
Here's how the first Marine to tell his story is spinning it.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-06-11T045314Z_01_N11221944_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-HADITHA-SERGEANT.xml&archived=False

According to the terrorist, his convoy hit a land mine, and they "returned
fire".
Of course, that's just irrational - it doesn't make any sense.
You can't return fire against a land mine.

In fact, what happened was that after they hit the mine, they saw someone in
the distance near some houses watching them.
They were so angry and confused that they decided to hunt that man down.
So they broke into one house after another, shooting "clearing fire".
That's US military code for "firing blindly".

They shot up the people's home, then they broke in and killed the
surviviors.
Then, when they finished with one house, they went on to the next.
Sometimes, before entering the house, they threw a grenade into it.

According to the Seargent's own story - that behaviour was totally
legitimate.
He says that was what he was paid to do, and that's why he did it.

He does not feel that he broke any rules because, let's face it, the only
goal in this war IS the war.

[Anonymous Infidel - Scares away the primitives with fire]

Gee, if only everyone was a dumb MooSlime, then your lame propaganda
would actually work.

[Aardman]

Post by Sanders Kaufman
You know about the US Marines' massacre of a couple of dozen civillians in
Haditha.

If the Marines had intended a massacre, there would be a couple hundred
dead civilians. Those people live packed in like sardines. Trying
to engage a few dozen insurgents in those fucking mud brick hives without
killing a hundred people is quite a challenge. Try it yourself sometime!

[Sanders Kaufman]

Post by Aardman

Post by Sanders Kaufman
You know about the US Marines' massacre of a couple of dozen civillians
in Haditha.

If the Marines had intended a massacre, there would be a couple hundred
dead civilians.

That milestone was passed YEARS ago.
The massacre continues.

[Charlie Wolf]

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:34:30 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman"

Post by Sanders Kaufman
You know about the US Marines' massacre of a couple of dozen civillians in
Haditha.

No - I don't know. Here's what I DO know:

- The evidence isn't in yet. We have a presumption of innocence in
this country. We will certainly use it.

- I know the story of a "Marine Massacre" sounds very "fishy" to me.
In short, most of this story smells really bad.

- I know that the murdering terrorist assholes in Iraq use women and
children to help them - and to hide behind. One VERY CREDIBLE report
has them using children to count the troops in the area before they
launch an attack on them. The children report directly to assholes
carrying AK's - that makes the children combatants. Whether you like
it or not.

- I know that this is a war zone - and that you don't have the
faintest fucking clue what its like to be in one.

- I know you support and defend the enemy - that makes you a fucking
traitor. And I know I dont believe one fucking word that you say.
Regards,

[Sanders Kaufman]

Post by Charlie Wolf
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:34:30 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman"

Post by Sanders Kaufman
You know about the US Marines' massacre of a couple of dozen civillians in
Haditha.

It's common for you anti-Iraqi folks to claim ignorance, even as the proof
is put before you.
That's okay - you don't have to smarten up.
You just have to accept the fact that the soldiers will keep dying.
If that's something you're okay with - so be it.

[Sanders Kaufman]

Post by Charlie Wolf
- I know that the murdering terrorist assholes in Iraq use women and
children to help them - and to hide behind. One VERY CREDIBLE report
has them using children to count the troops in the area before they
launch an attack on them. The children report directly to assholes
carrying AK's - that makes the children combatants. Whether you like
it or not.

Clearly... you and your kind like it.
Well.. not you personally.
The best way to end this war would be if cowards like you were forced to
fight your own fight.

A lot of people cried for America on 9/11.
The next time - not so many, maybe.

It's common for trash like you to blame the victims of the massacre.
It's particularly common for you to attribute your faith to "One VERY
CREDIBLE report" or some such.
It's called "anonymous attribution".
It only works on people who already share your hate-based faith.

[Aardman]

Post by Sanders Kaufman

Post by Charlie Wolf
- I know that the murdering terrorist assholes in Iraq use women and
children to help them - and to hide behind. One VERY CREDIBLE report
has them using children to count the troops in the area before they
launch an attack on them. The children report directly to assholes
carrying AK's - that makes the children combatants. Whether you like
it or not.

Clearly... you and your kind like it.
Well.. not you personally.
The best way to end this war would be if cowards like you were forced to
fight your own fight.
A lot of people cried for America on 9/11.
The next time - not so many, maybe.
It's common for trash like you to blame the victims of the massacre.
It's particularly common for you to attribute your faith to "One VERY
CREDIBLE report" or some such.
It's called "anonymous attribution".
It only works on people who already share your hate-based faith.

Who has blamed the innocents caught in crossfire? The insurgents
have moved the battle to an urban setting. They are to blame.
In this fight, there will be innocents killed. So far the insurgents kill
about ten times as many as the coalition does, but it doesn't make
me feel any better. When a coalition soldier kills an innocent,
the blood of the innocent is on my hands, and not on the hands of the
soldier who pulls the trigger. I can console myself with the knowledge
that victory will
bring a better world to those who survive. There is no wound greater
to the combat veteran than the memories of those innocents lost in the war
zone.
That is unless he was one of the insurgents. They try to kill as many
innocents as they can.

[Sanders Kaufman]

Post by Aardman
Who has blamed the innocents caught in crossfire? The insurgents
have moved the battle to an urban setting. They are to blame.

It's notable that you refer to "the insurgents" as if they're some
well-organized group, acting with one purpose and one mind.
In fact - "The InsurgenCY" is made up of a broad range of people with a lot
of different motives.

But that's too difficult for a coward like you to wrap your mind around.
It's easier for you to just blame this shadowy "them" for everything.

In fact, NONE of the insurgents chose to fight this fight in Iraq.
That decision is made everyday by you anti-Iraqi folks.

[Aardman]

Post by Sanders Kaufman

Post by Aardman
Who has blamed the innocents caught in crossfire? The insurgents
have moved the battle to an urban setting. They are to blame.

It's notable that you refer to "the insurgents" as if they're some
well-organized group, acting with one purpose and one mind.
In fact - "The InsurgenCY" is made up of a broad range of people with a
lot of different motives.
But that's too difficult for a coward like you to wrap your mind around.
It's easier for you to just blame this shadowy "them" for everything.
In fact, NONE of the insurgents chose to fight this fight in Iraq.
That decision is made everyday by you anti-Iraqi folks.

What was your point? The insurgents are not run by a centralized command?
I never said that they were. You are arguing an issue that I did not raise.
What is the sound of one hand clapping?
Sandy Kaufman whacking off on Usenet again...

[Sanders Kaufman]

Post by Aardman

Post by Sanders Kaufman
In fact, NONE of the insurgents chose to fight this fight in Iraq.
That decision is made everyday by you anti-Iraqi folks.

What was your point? The insurgents are not run by a centralized command?
I never said that they were. You are arguing an issue that I did not raise.

No, you just misinterpreted my point.
It's common for your faith-based whack-jobs to get stuff wrong that way.

[Whip]

There is no story there,Why?

Post by Sanders Kaufman
You know about the US Marines' massacre of a couple of dozen civillians in
Haditha.
Here's how the first Marine to tell his story is spinning it.
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-06-11T045314Z_01_N11221944_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-HADITHA-SERGEANT.xml&archived=False
According to the terrorist, his convoy hit a land mine, and they "returned
fire".
Of course, that's just irrational - it doesn't make any sense.
You can't return fire against a land mine.
In fact, what happened was that after they hit the mine, they saw someone
in the distance near some houses watching them.
They were so angry and confused that they decided to hunt that man down.
So they broke into one house after another, shooting "clearing fire".
That's US military code for "firing blindly".
They shot up the people's home, then they broke in and killed the
surviviors.
Then, when they finished with one house, they went on to the next.
Sometimes, before entering the house, they threw a grenade into it.
According to the Seargent's own story - that behaviour was totally
legitimate.
He says that was what he was paid to do, and that's why he did it.
He does not feel that he broke any rules because, let's face it, the only
goal in this war IS the war.
--
America can never win against the terrorists until we wipe out the
NeoChristian insurgents.